The Group Dentistry Now Show: The Voice of the DSO Industry – Episode 219

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Transforming Orthodontics: How orthobrain Empowers General Dentists

In this episode, we sit down with industry leaders from orthobrain, including Dr. Dan German, Founder and CEO, Richard Uria, President, and Dr. Scott Kalniz, Board Member.

Join us as we dive into the world of orthodontics and explore how orthobrain is revolutionizing access to orthodontic care through general dentists. Discover the unique offerings that set orthobrain apart in a competitive market, including their comprehensive education and support systems designed to empower general practitioners.

We also discuss the upcoming Orthodentist Growth Summit happening from September 10th to 12th in Cleveland, Ohio. This event promises to be an incredible opportunity for dental teams to enhance their skills, engage with expert speakers, and learn how to better serve their patients.

Key topics covered in this episode:

  • The founding and mission of orthobrain
  • The importance of education & support in orthodontics
  • Why orthobrain is different
  • Insights into the Orthodentist Growth Summit

Don’t miss out on this insightful conversation that highlights the synergy between dentists and orthodontists, ultimately benefiting patients in need of orthodontic care.

Use code GDN2025 for a special discount on your registration for the Orthodentist Growth Summit. Visit https://dso.pub/Orthodentist25 to register.

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Welcome to the Group Dentistry Now Show, the voice of the DSO industry. Join us as we talk with industry leaders about their challenges, successes, and the future of group dentistry. With over 200 episodes and listeners in over 100 countries, we’re proud to be ranked the number one DSO podcast. For the latest DSO news, analysis and events, and to subscribe to our DSO Weekly e-newsletter, visit GroupDentistryNow.com. We hope you enjoyed today’s show.

Bill Neumann: Welcome everyone to the Group Dentistry Now show. I’m Bill Neumann. And as always, we appreciate you tuning in, whether you are watching us on YouTube or Group Dentistry Now, or you might be listening to us on Apple, Spotify, or Google, we really appreciate you without great viewers and listeners like you. We couldn’t have great guests like the next three guests we have on today. We have Dr. Dan German. He is the founder and CEO of OrthoBrain. Richard Uria is the president of OrthoBrain and Dr. Scott Kalnitz, you may know that name. He is on the board of directors at OrthoBrain. So Dr. Gurman, Dr. Kalnitz and Richard, thanks for being here today.

Dr. Dan German: We’re delighted to be here.

Bill Neumann: So Dan, why don’t we start off with you a little bit about your background and maybe talk to us a little bit about the founding of OrthoBrain and what is OrthoBrain?

Dr. Dan German: Yeah, so I was a private practice orthodontist. I had a traditional boutique practice that grew from working half day a week with one person to 65 people within the practice. Sometime in the mid 90s, we reached that peak of 65. And all along the way, I realized that there weren’t enough orthodontists to be able to care for all the people in need of treatment. I believe the stats are that we treat less than 1% of the population every year with orthodontics, leaving 500 million to a billion people out there that would benefit from orthodontics, but don’t really have access to it. We realized that the access was going to come through general dentists, because there are so many more of them than there are orthodontists, and created OrthoBrain to solve two problems. One, to get orthodontics to people in need, and two, to enable the general practitioner to be able to deliver orthodontics with excellence, with confidence, giving a big win to everybody down the chain.

Bill Neumann: Thank you, Dr. Kerman. Richard, a little bit about your background. You’re the president there. How did you get involved with OrthoBrain? You obviously, we’re going to know from your accent that you’re not originally from the U.S., just a wild guess.

Richard Uria: Just a wild guess. Yeah, from the Deep South, born and raised in Johannesburg, South Africa. Small world, Dr. German actually. He lectured my brother in the late 90s and early in 2017. My brother’s an orthodontist in Sydney, Australia. And I originally invested in OrthoBrain back when Dr. Gurman started the company. I was on the board of advisors. So I’ve really watched the company grow year upon year and joined the company about three years ago, full time to come on as president, really involved in the operations with the board of directors, the business development team, the clinical team and operations team.

Bill Neumann: Thanks, Richard. And Dr. Scott Kalnitz. Scott’s been involved in the DSO space for quite a while. You had your own group. You’re working with a bunch of different organizations now. So maybe a little bit about your background and why you decided to become part of the board of directors at OrthoBrain.

Dr. Scott Kalniz: Sure. So I am a dentist by background, a general dentist. And as most of the general dentists, if you’re listening now, when you go to dental school, you get less than zero training. They actually make ortho seem like it’s some nebulous thing that you should never touch. And You know, I’ve always been interested in trying to figure out, it’s all physics when you get down to it, but I had the opportunity to meet Dr. German and Richard, and really what, I just got so excited by what they had built, by what they were building, and the idea of getting more general dentists to participate in ortho, to provide this valuable service to their patients who desperately need it, and how they make it simple. It’s ortho by numbers is kind of how I like to say it. And I was just really honored and excited when I was asked to participate on the board.

Bill Neumann: Excellent. Thanks. Thanks, Scott. Let’s start off with probably a pretty big question, which is you’ve got Invisalign’s number one customer, why would they decide to work with you and build a better mousetrap? I mean, they’re their number one customer, so they’re probably doing pretty well. So what was that decision to work with OrthoBrain and how have you helped them do even better?

Dr. Dan German: Yeah, I’m gonna take that one and I’m gonna look at the question as if you were asking, why did I leave the comfort of providing Invisalign therapy to my orthodontic patients and develop, found, and build OrthoBrain to enable others to be able to do so as successfully as I was. And I think we have to go back a little bit, Bill, and look at the history of Invisalign. Invisalign was the first company to be able to mass produce aligners to move teeth. And I see that as analogous to Ford Motor Company being the first company that could mass produce cars and McDonald’s the first company that could mass produce hamburgers. And we all know that there are Other places you can get hamburgers now and other places that you can get cars. Others eventually can catch up. And the beautiful thing about Invisalign is it brought a lot of awareness to the public about the benefits and opportunity to have orthodontics. It was a great solution for me and for my practice and for orthodontics in general. What I found was that there was a big gaping hole to fill, and that is that Align makes a great aligner. I’ll say that we were able to build a company and provide a great aligner, as good as Invisalign’s, maybe better, and add all the elements that are missing from the traditional aligner vendor. And so there’s a lot of spokes of the success wheel. One of them is going to be digital workflow. Another would be talk tracks for the hygiene department to be able to give to potential patients. There’ll be case presentations, financing for patients, all kinds of elements from a business side and from an implementation side that weren’t part and parcel of any of the other vendors. And so I saw this huge opportunity for OrthoBrain to be able to provide all the We’ll call them the processes, the proven processes that we were able to develop in my private practice. Take those, put them into OrthoBrain, and that way we’re able to enable first orthodontists to be able to do orthodontics with aligners before we invented OrthoBrain and now bring it all to the general dentist. So the general dentists have all the proven processes that we had in my wildly successful orthodontic practice and create a system where a dentist realizes there is always somebody at their side. They are never alone. And I believe that’s the secret sauce that OrthoBrain provides over and beyond any of the other vendors, including Invisalign.

Bill Neumann: So you’ve been wildly successful. You’re growing quickly. And what would you say really sets you apart? Because it is a competitive market.

Dr. Dan German: Right. I believe that there are some unique parts of our offering, and I’ll list the four of them. And if one of them sparks additional interest, then we can go a little bit deeper. One is that we have a USA orthodontist that will make a video of all of the patient records and their aligner design and share that with the general dentist along with a perfect smile plan. Then we’ve got an entire virtual orthodontic team that is always accessible from the practice making sure that the dentist never feels alone. Then we’ve got proven processes, part of which are built into the aligner system that are resulting in fewer refinements and fewer aligners to be able to get to the finish line. And then fourth is that we’re able to deliver education and training. And I think of it almost as a DoorDash model where you’ve got three options. If you’re really committed, we can put a team in your office, or you can send your team to OrthoBrain University, or we can do it in a virtual manner. And I say that those four things are really unique in the marketplace. Perhaps there’s somebody who’s doing one of them. I doubt that anybody is gonna be doing two of them. And for sure, there’s nobody out there doing all four of those.

Dr. Scott Kalniz: Yeah, and that’s the really exciting part of ortho-brain, whether you’re a single practice or a thousand location DSO. Individual practices, when they have an associate, and DSOs obviously have a lot of associates, they tend to be somewhat leery about starting an ortho case because, well, if that associate leaves, then what do I do? And what Dr. German said about having that support from submitting your case to all the way through to completion, that provides that comfort blanket that allows you to treat those ortho cases, and Dr. Gurman can talk about the simple to complex cases, but having that support hand in hand with you allows you to feel more comfortable doing that case, starting it, and having somebody else, even if they had to, in a worst case scenario, pick it up midway through the process. So you can’t undersell the value of having that support behind you at OrthoBrain.

Bill Neumann: It’s got, you make a, make a good point there. And as you think about it, from like our audience perspective, we’ve got a lot of emerging groups and DSOs and all different skill levels. And I think one of the things, you mentioned the 4 things, and 2 of them that stood out to me were the education component, which is huge. A lot of the groups out there, I would say the majority don’t really have any structure behind education. So a lot of the clinicians, there are some that do, but the vast majority don’t. So clinicians are getting their education the way they would traditionally get that if they were a solo practitioner. So I think that that is really important, especially when it’s a skill set they’re not super comfortable with. So that will be one. And then the other, I think that’s really appealing. You talked about fewer aligners and of course, fewer adjustments too. So I think those are the things when you kind of look at it from, you know, just time-saving perspective and that education perspective that I think just builds confidence. I don’t know if you want to dive in a little deeper on those two components.

Dr. Dan German: Yeah, absolutely. Thanks for bringing that to light because My DNA consists of education. It’s in my bones. I was on faculty. I’ve lacked at the Ohio State University, lectured around the world, taught around the world, shared ideas. I love, love, love sharing and sharing that knowledge. And so, That really lends itself well to helping us bring the general practitioner office up to speed. One thing that’s really unique about what we’re doing is we go by this principle of you learn by doing. In order to really have the teachings in your bones, it’s learning by doing. I’ll give you some examples, Bill. If you ever taught children how to swim, how many classroom sessions do they sit through? How many PowerPoints? How many YouTube videos do they watch? That’s not how you learn how to swim. It’s not how you learn how to ride a bicycle. And it’s not how you learn to do orthodontics. So what we do is we create this video that goes in depth and it’s filled with learning. And when the dentist, and their team watch those videos and treat the patient, then they really grasp all the concepts and it becomes sticky and they’ll be able to pull that knowledge off the shelf. Again, so learning by doing is a critical part of the entire picture. And I believe that the education is a key driver in giving people confidence. So it’s two things. One, that they have access to the knowledge and support that they need. And two, knowing that somebody is always at their side in order to be able to deliver it to them when they need it and in the manner that they need it.

Richard Uria: And just to jump in here, you know, to Dr. Goeman’s point on the education bill, what we’re seeing is the GPs that are getting more education, more comfort in doing the ortho, we’re seeing their case utilization going up. So the more confident they’re becoming, the more they’re speaking to the patients about it, the more the team in the practice is speaking about it. Again, it’s that level of confidence. And we make it super easy for the GP from start to finish.

Bill Neumann: Let’s talk a little bit about the company itself, OrthoBrain. Maybe, Richard, talk a little bit about what does that company actually look like? And you’ve got sales and you’ve got a support team, even more importantly, I think sometimes the support team. What do they actually do for the customers? And do you have specific programs or a specific strategy for emerging groups and DSOs in particular, because again, we’ve got a lot of bigger groups that listen to this podcast, but then we’ve got a lot of dentists that have five, six, seven locations, and they’re busy growing their practices, so they really can use all the support they can get. And they’re always looking for ways really to, there’s a huge focus on same store sales, right? So they’re maybe not acquiring as many practices as they once did. They’re really focused on their individual practices and the growth in each practice.

Richard Uria: Great question. So we have a bus dev team scattered across the country from West Coast to East Coast to take care of the local markets from a clinical perspective. We have clinical teams at our headquarters really engaging with cases everyday practices talking to the clinical teams at the office, the doctor themselves. We have our orthodontists, our US-based orthodontists on staff across the country who engage with the case management as well. So we’re really, whether you’re a five office location or a 50 office location, we’re able to support the offices individually as well as the group, whether it’s us going to them or them coming to OrthoBrain University for hands-on courses.

Bill Neumann: Well, you talked a lot about the training, and this is going to lead into a bigger topic about an event that you have coming up that we want to make sure that everybody knows about. But any more you can say about the education and the training for the individual dentists? And again, I think you’ve got a couple of different buckets, right? You’ve got the really young general dentist that just joined a DSO out of dental school a couple of years. And they really are looking for a lot of different things, including mentorship, which hopefully they’re getting at the DSO. And then they are looking for that education too. They want to kind of broaden the skill set that they have, which probably isn’t a lot because they just got out of dental school. And I think clear aligners are a focus, but maybe a little bit, they might be a little bit apprehensive because Dr. Kallis I think mentioned it, there’s zero when it comes to orthodontics and they say stay away from that if you’re a GP. So can you talk a little bit about that education and what that looks like? Is it all, does it start off with, is there anything custom about it? Is it any different for group practices maybe or for younger clinicians versus more established clinicians?

Richard Uria: Yeah, absolutely. So what we’re doing when we’re going to a practice, whether it’s the onboarding implementation side of it, we’re really touching every aspect of the practice, from the front office manager to the clinical team, the hygiene team, and the doc. We’re giving them the confidence to talk about patient financing. We’re giving them the confidence to talk to the patient about their hygiene and about ortho when they’re sitting having their teeth cleaned. We educate and support every component of the practice. And again, whether they come to OrthoBrain University or we go to them or it’s virtual, we’re giving them that confidence to be able to have the conversation with the patient.

Dr. Dan German: Yeah, I’ll add on there. I will just say that Richard has an incredible toolkit when it comes to operating a business. And one of the things that I’ve learned from him is to learn how to listen. You know, as an educator, I like the microphone. And what I learned from Richard is, put the microphone down, ask questions, and listen. And what Richard’s able to do is he’s able to tease out exactly what the needs are for each one of these practices or groups that we bring in, because they’re all in a different place. And so we’ve got all these buckets of education and training that are available, and we titrate the amount for each practice given what their needs are. Because as you said, Bill, you’ve got some people that are right out of school, scared as a cat, And then you’ve got others who have had some experience and sometimes a little bit of retraining is needed, a fresh perspective on some of the things that they’re doing in order to be able to really launch it. And one of the bonuses goes back to what you said with the mentoring, because some of the orthodontists that we have on our team love what they do and any opportunity they have to share a little bit of advice along the way, they’re happy to do because occasionally they’ll be on a Zoom and they’ll meet with the dentist to be able to help with the education and support.

Bill Neumann: Well, I think one of the things that you both touched on, on the education side of things, which is really important, is you’ve got the clinical aspects, but then you’ve also got the business aspects. So how do you talk to patients about this type of treatment? How do you train the office staff? So it’s not just clinical education. It’s not the how to do it. It’s the how to talk about it and how to educate the patients. put them at ease and actually, you know, I know it’s sometimes we don’t always say it, but sell the service, right, to be able to talk about that. Okay, so we’ve focused a lot on education, which I think is really important. So let’s talk about the OrthoDentist Growth Summit that’s coming up September 10th through 12th in Cleveland. So yeah, tell us what this is. This is an in-person event, obviously. So we talked a lot about online education. Now we’re talking about an in-person event. Why is this so important to talk about?

Richard Uria: So, yeah, I mean, again, what we’re doing here is it’s our first orthobrain symposium. We’re very proud of this. We’re looking to have about 300 groups with us. We’re touching the whole team in terms of giving what we’re saying to the docs is bring your team from the front office manager to the hygiene. We want everybody to be at this meeting. We have got an incredible KOL list of speakers who are going to be doing breakout sessions with each component of the practice, whether it’s the front office, the doc, we’ve got some great speakers. Chuck Cohen, as you know, the Managing Director of Benco is our keynote speaker and the opening speaker. So we’re really excited to have Chuck there and be able to kick off the symposium.

Dr. Dan German: Yeah, and I think that I’d like to put a spotlight on the message that Richard just delivered when it’s referring to the team. One of the key ingredients to having success when it’s growing your orthodontic practice is having team engagement. You know, orthodontics is beautiful because of the high level of leverage. You really need your hygiene team and your dental assisting team to be on board as well as all the other components from the front desk reception and treatment coordinators. What Richard’s been able to do is put together a list, an A list of elite speakers, whether it’s a hygienist or a dental assistant that’s able to help school up your team and really get them not only educated, but also pumped up to appreciate the incredible opportunity that they’re giving the patients that they’re able to treat. It isn’t lip service to say it’s all about educating the patient as opposed to selling because the patients want to buy when they understand what the value is of having this kind of orthodontic care to improve their lives.

Dr. Scott Kalniz: And every office has these patients. And so instead of referring them out or just having them have no treatment, which is the worst thing you can do for their oral health, which we now know impacts the rest of their body, let’s treat these patients. And the Growth Summit is an excellent opportunity to learn about OrthoBrain, learn how they’re there to support you and get your team engaged. An engaged team is a team that stays. We know that keeping employees now in the dental offices is harder and harder, and this is a great way to keep your team engaged and motivated and happy to show up to work every day. Your typical GP office, you’re dealing with tooth dust and all that other kind of stuff. Ortho, your patients are happy, they’re smiling, they’re excited to see you. So what better treatment modality to implement than one that your patients need and it makes them healthier overall.

Bill Neumann: So beyond, there’s a clinical aspect, right? So clinicians should absolutely go to the Growth Summit, but what about the rest of the dental team? Is there going to be content for them?

Dr. Dan German: Absolutely. We’ve got an expert that’s coming on and her topic is how to get your patient to yes. National level speaker. I’ve heard her over many, many years. And the only challenge at the summit is whether you want to be in the breakout session or in the main room for some of the speakers, but they’re out of this world in terms of the quality of the content. And listen, Bill, this is all about confidence and opportunity, and we’re giving confidence and opportunity to everybody in this entire journey, from the patients having confidence and opportunity after they receive the treatment, to the practice that’s delivering the care, having competence and opportunity. It’s to the team, which is what Dr. Scott mentioned, and part of that team is the dentist. And so I know for a lot of the young dentists that we speak with, when they’re looking at an enterprise model to enter, they oftentimes want to know what kind of technology is in there and what kind of services am I going to be providing? Am I limited to drill and fill or do I have the opportunity to have a new skill set that I get to keep for the rest of my career? And we have found that many of the young docs that are entering an enterprise model are really enthused about the opportunity to gain the skill set, one that can grow their business within the enterprise model and something that they’re able to keep and use throughout their career.

Bill Neumann: So it’s September 10th through the 12th. It is in Cleveland, Ohio, actually at Warrensville Heights, Ohio, to be exact, but Cleveland. And it’s actually a great time of year to be in Cleveland. So if anybody hasn’t been to that part of Ohio or Ohio in general, it’s probably the best time to be, you know, it’s late summer, early fall, the weather’s perfect. And it’s, it’s actually a pretty cool city. There’s a lot going on there. So there’s other things to do besides the summit, but you want to make sure that you either go to the main session or the breakouts, but you’re there. But then there’s certainly a lot that you’ve got going on. And I’ve seen you mentioned Chuck Cohen, and I was on a panel with him not too long ago, and he’s a great speaker. He got into a little debate with somebody. It was a lot of fun to watch him. But You know, so that’ll be great to see Chuck there as well. You mentioned that it’s not just for clinicians, it’s for entire staff. What about, you know, we kind of talked about this earlier, you’ve got the younger clinicians, fresh out of dental school, and you have the seasoned clinicians, you know, both would be appealing, right? Whether you’re younger, don’t have a lot of experience, or somebody maybe that’s been there, done that, but needs a little bit of re-education.

Dr. Dan German: Yes, absolutely. I’m astounded by this finding, Bill. When we first launched OrthoBrain, I thought it was gonna be limited to the younger generation who was really comfortable with things that are digital, logging into a computer system and such. We made it easy so that anybody would be able to do it. The programmers were targeted with an assignment to make it easy enough that my mom would be able to figure it out or a fifth grader. So we got that part and I thought it was gonna be mainly younger doctors. And then here come my contemporaries who are saying, wait, hold up. I’m ready to back off on the drill. I’m a little tired of taking stuff off of teeth. I would like to straighten them. And I would like to be more like an orthodontist, where I become the conductor of a beautiful symphony orchestra of excellence, predictability, and profitability. And that’s what orthodontics becomes. And so we have these senior practitioners that are also very excited about doing it. and backing off on the leaning over the chair and getting a headache in their neck from doing the hands-on work that they had been doing for so many years. So really the appeal is quite broad across the spectrum of age.

Dr. Scott Kalniz: And I’ve seen that live with some of the DSOs that I’m involved in. You have these dentists who are in their late 40s, early 50s. They’ve done 10,000 crowns, all the fillings that they’ve ever wanted to do and all the extractions. And they feel like they’re sick of dentistry. They’re burned out. Well, ortho and going through the ortho brain program, is like reinvigorated them. They can’t wait to show up in the office. They maybe have a younger associate who can do the crowns and fillings and stuff now, and they can focus on the fun. And it’s great seeing those providers because you see them all kind of hunched over and not excited to show up. All of a sudden on Monday, now they’re showing up with a little, their shoulders are back, a little spark in their step, and they’re excited to be there again. And it’s really amazing to see that.

Richard Uria: And just to touch on that, you know, when these docs embrace the OrthoBrain ecosystem, we make it so easy for them. We really, we hold their hand. As Dr. German mentioned, they’re never alone. From the front office of the practice all the way through to the doc, we really are there to support them, help them, encourage them, and get their case utilization up. We’re giving them that confidence to get the patients to say yes. And again, the more success they have through their patients, the more raving fans they have. So again, the ortho-brain ecosystem, and we’re a true growth system for these GP practices that embrace ortho-brain.

Dr. Scott Kalniz: One thing that I know Dr. German and Richard touched on was a US-based orthodontist. What a lot, you know, I’ve gone through all the other courses at the different manufacturers, and what’s amazing to me, and again, I have very little ortho training, because you don’t get much in school, but usually the person who’s designing your case, is somebody sitting in a lab somewhere that’s probably not in the US and moving teeth around and telling you, here’s the case. And in dentistry, every dentist can attest to this, right? You learn a new skill, you’re excited to go do it. and the results just aren’t there. And you really have nobody to call for backup, for help, or anything like that, so you never do that again. And OrthoBrain, they’ve cracked the code on you’re never alone. It’s a US-based orthodontist who’s designing the case, walking you through it with the video, and then you have help if you get stuck on something. You have a phone you can call, you have a video you can chat you can have, And so you never end up in a situation where you’re out on an island trying to figure something out that you’re like, well, I guess this is as good as it’s gonna be. Now I have to send you somewhere else. You don’t have that with ortho brain.

Dr. Dan German: Scott, I’m so glad you brought that up because one of the hardest things for our orthodontic team to get used to was being on video. We don’t just make the video of the records, you actually have the face of the orthodontist that you’re speaking to and so they develop a relationship through the video and so it isn’t behind the curtain that there’s an orthodontist helping, you will meet them and develop a relationship with them as you interact, going back and forth. And since I have the microphone, I want to thank Dr. Scott for putting me in the category of the 40-something-year-old dentists who are now ready to try something. Scott, you are now my favorite dentist ever, for all our viewers. I dye my hair white for credibility.

Bill Neumann: So I’ve got to ask this question, hopefully you’ll agree to it, but if anyone in the audience wants to attend the OrthoDentist Growth Summit, is there a discount code or some type of discount we can offer our audience?

Richard Uria: Absolutely. I’m glad you brought that up. There is a discount code for the Group Dentistry Now audience. It is GDN 2025. Once again, GDN 2025, and that is the discount code. Excellent.

Bill Neumann: Good. So we’ll make sure we drop that in the show notes. And if you want to register for the OrthoDentist Growth Summit, you can go to, it’s easy, orthobrain.com. And then at the top, they’ve got a tab that says Education and Events. You can click on that and get to the event. And we’ll actually put that direct URL in the show notes so you can just jump right into the event if you want that. Of course, if you want to learn about OrthoBrain, you can just go to orthobrain.com and you’re on their website. Any final thoughts, Dr. German, Richard, or Scott, before we end the show?

Dr. Dan German: Yeah, I just I want to make sure that everybody realizes that we’re having this incredible success. We’re wildly successful because of the people that have found to make this dream a reality. And it started with Richard Uriah, who who is masterful at operating a business and incredibly talented. board members that are hands-on, like Dr. Scott. Without all those people, it would have just been a dream. There’s no way it would be actualized. And so part of my job is to let these guys go and build this amazing company and not get in their way, be there when they need me and help on the clinical end. So I’m really grateful to have met all these people that are making this happen.

Bill Neumann: Well, thank you all. Really appreciate it today. Dr. German, Dr. Kalnitz, and Richard Uriah, thank you so much. Again, we’ll make sure we drop information on the OrthoDentist Growth Summit in the show notes, and you can go to orthobrain.com to learn more. And if you do want to go to the Growth Summit, discount code is GDN, like Group Dentistry now, GDN25, and you’ll get your discount. Thank you, everyone, for watching today. Until next time, this is the Group Dentistry Now Show. It’s a synergy between dentists and orthodontists and really both of them benefit from it and the patient definitely benefits.

It’s something I’ve always been interested in doing. Never really had an avenue to learn how to do it, you know, and bring it into the office.

When you have education and when you have knowledge it gives you confidence and I think confidence is a big seller. Believing in what you’re delivering.

I think it’s really awesome. I think it’s really cool how quickly you can learn it. So to have somebody that you can contact immediately, an orthodontist, a specialist, that’s going to be able to help guide you through it is huge. That’s why this is such a great, this was a genius idea.

If you want to be able to treat your patients more comprehensively, to take full care of them, like OrthoBrain is the way to do it. For me to be able to go to bed at night and know I’ve done everything I can for my patients, that’s all I could ever ask for.

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